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JoyStick
10.11.2011, 13:44
имеем необходимость лететь из Ростова на Дону в Питер 18 го или 19-го декабря.
есть 2 варианта.
Аэрофлот-Дон и ГТК Россия
цены почти одинаковые 11-13 тыс на троих.
Вопрос. Кто разбирается в тарифах, какие из билетов дешевле поменять на другой день?
теоретически предполагаю что можно и те и те...а вот какие с наименьшими потерями?

Порось Домашний
15.11.2011, 23:11
Так вы не написали названия тарифов...

JoyStick
16.11.2011, 00:41
а я так и не нашла названий...там только в момент заказа выпадало что-то типа условий применения тарифа...уже взяли аерофлот у них боинги...(у россии АН .... в последний мой полет им блевало пол самолета....) это было решающим фактором...

yumo
17.11.2011, 10:32
а я так и не нашла названий...там только в момент заказа выпадало что-то типа условий применения тарифа...уже взяли аерофлот у них боинги...(у россии АН .... в последний мой полет им блевало пол самолета....) это было решающим фактором...

От самолета многое зависит... иной раз лучше переплатить, но лететь на более новом самолете...

Вихрик
17.11.2011, 10:37
Так позвоните в авиакомпанию и спросите условия тарифа, а еще проще - посмотрите на их сайте. У ГТК точно есть инфа, причем в очень доступном пониманию формате..

JoyStick
17.11.2011, 10:39
Так позвоните в авиакомпанию и спросите условия тарифа, а еще проще - посмотрите на их сайте. У ГТК точно есть инфа, причем в очень доступном пониманию формате..

Я как бы не совсем чайник...но русским языком правил не было...только на английском и только коды...
хотя впрочем уже все равно :)

Вихрик
17.11.2011, 10:49
Я как бы не совсем чайник...но русским языком правил не было...только на английском и только коды...
хотя впрочем уже все равно :)

Ессно не чайник, никто и не сомневается, :flower:

http://www.rossiya-airlines.com/FF_discr/ru/ff_discr_domestic.html

Вот посмотрите:)

JoyStick
17.11.2011, 11:13
меня больше аерофлот печалил а у него вот так
ELIGIBILITY : NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY_TIME : NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY : NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
FLIGHT_APPLICATION : THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
SU FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4299
SU FLIGHTS 4700 THROUGH 4999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SU FLIGHT.
ADVANCE_RESERVATIONS_TICKETING : FARE RULE
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL
DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE LAST
TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED TICKETING
DEADLINE MESSAGE. THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING
DEADLINE APPLIES.
--------
FARE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND NOT GUARANTEED UNTIL
TICKETED
--------
MINIMUM_STAY : NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
MAXIMUM_STAY : TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
1 MONTH AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS : NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
TRANSFERS : 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TRANSFERS PERMITTED ONLY WITHIN ROUTING ATTACHED
TO THIS FARE
COMBINATIONS : SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.
ROUND TRIPS/END-ON-END
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL
FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF
COMBINATION.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY U-/N- TYPE FARES FOR
CARRIER SU IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
BLACKOUT_DATES : NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EFF 01JUN08 IN CASE PASSENGER VOLUNTARILY
REQUESTS TO CONVERT E-TICKET TO PAPER SURCHARGE
OF EUR 10.00 PER TICKET SHOULD BE CHARGED.
THE SURCHARGE SHALL BE COLLECTED ON MCO/MPD AND
WILL BE ASSESSED AT THE RATE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME
THE ELECTRONIC TICKET IS CONVERTED TO PAPER.
PAPER TICKET SURCHARGE IS NOT REFUNDABLE.
ACCOMPANIED_TRAVEL : ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL_RESTRICTIONS : VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 30OCT11 AND ON/
BEFORE 31MAR12.
SALES_RESTRICTIONS : FOOTNOTE RULE
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21NOV11.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 21NOV11.

FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF SU.
PENALTIES : FARE RULE
CANCELLATIONS

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
FULL FARE PAID IF TICKET IS PRESENTED FOR A REFUND
MORE THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME SHOWN
ON THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON.
FARE PAID LESS 25 PERCENT IF TICKET IS PRESENTED
FOR A REFUND LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE
TIME SHOWN ON THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON.

BEFORE DEPARTURE
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.

AFTER DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
REFUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION USED
IN EFFECT ON THE DAY OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
IF TICKET IS PRESENTED FOR A REFUND MORE THAN
24 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME SHOWN ON THE
UNUSED FLIGHT COUPONS.
--------
REFUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION USED
IN EFFECT ON THE DAY OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
LESS 25 PERCENT OF EACH TARIFF COMPONENT
PRESENTED FOR THE REFUND LESS THAN 24 HOURS
BEFORE DEPARTURE TIME SHOWN ON THE FLIGHT COUPON.

AFTER DEPARTURE
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHARGE RUB 2000 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.

CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A.IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT
COUPON -
FULL AMOUNT PAID FOR ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED
AT EQUAL OR HIGHER TICKET AMOUNT USING -CURRENT-
FARE LEVELS UPON PAYMENT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
ORIGINAL AND RECALCULATED FARES PLUS 2000 RUB
CHARGE FEE.
ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE INCLUDING
ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN STAY/MAX STAY/SEASONALITY/ETC
MUST BE MET.
------
B. IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST
TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON -
THE FULL AMOUNT PAID FOR ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED
AT EQUAL OR HIGHER TICKET AMOUNT USING FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE FARE
LEVELS UPON PAYMENT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
ORIGINAL AND RECALCULATED FARES PLUS 2000 RUB
CHARGE FEE.
ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE EXCEPT ADVP
AND TICKETING REQUIREMENTS MUST BE MET.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CANCELLATIONS RULES
NOTE --
INFANT FREE OF CHARGE.CHILDREN DISCOUNT NOT APPLY.
APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS OF MORE RESTRICTED RULE APPLY.
---
PENALTIES WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER/TRAVELLING
COMPANION OR FAMILY MEMBER.
FAMILY MEMBER - SPOUSE/CHILDREN/ADOPTED CHILDREN/
PARENTS.
REFUND OF UNUSED FEES AND TAXES PERMITTED.
---
REFUND CAN ONLY BE MADE THROUGH ISSUING OFFICE.
---
PERIOD VALIDITY FOR SPECIAL FARE WILL BE MAX STAY
OF THE FARE FROM THE DATE ON THE FIRST FLIGHT
COUPON.
---
AT ANY TIME - IN CASE OF REFUND - PAPER TICKET
SURCHARGE IS NOT REFUNDABLE WHEN APPLIED.
.
FOR REFUND OF FARES ORIGINATING IN RUSSIA - AT ANY
TIME IF PASSENGER VOLUNTARILY REQUESTS FOR FULL
OR PARTIAL REFUND ADDITIONAL REFUND CHARGE OF
25.00 EUR PER INTERNATIONAL SERVICES OR 900RUB FOR
DOMESTIC -E TICKET OR PAPER TICKET- SHALL APPLY.
---
AFTER DEPARTURE
FOR PARTLY USED TRANSPORTATION -
THE REFUND IF ANY WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE FARE PAID AND THE FARE FOR TRANSPORTATION USED
WHEN RECALCULATING FARES FOR TRANSPORTATION USED
FARES IN LOWER RBD THAN SHOWN IN USED COUPONS
CANNOT APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
CHANGES
NOTE -
CH DISCOUNT APPLY/INFANT FREE OF CHARGE.
CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION.
---
IN CASE OF FARE CHANGE NEW FARE TYPE SHOULD BE
EQUAL OR HIGHER.
---
WHEN COMBINING THE FARES THE HIGHEST CHANGE FEE OF
ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS APPLY.
---
CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED AFTER THE DEPARTURE TIME
SHOWN ON THE APPLICABLE FLIGHT COUPON. IN THIS
CASE TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
---
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-
REFUNDABLE AND MUST BE PRINTED ON THE NEW TICKET.
HIP_MILEAGE_EXCEPTIONS : NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
TICKET_ENDORSEMENTS : THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NON-REF - AND - SU ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
CHILDREN_DISCOUNTS : CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR 18
OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
CHARGE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PASSENGER BOX - UN FOLLOWED BY THE AGE.
TOUR_CONDUCTOR_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
AGENT_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
ALL_OTHER_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
MISCELLANEOUS_PROVISIONS : NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
GROUPS : NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS : NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT_ANOTHER_COUNTRY : NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS : NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY_REFUNDS : CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
RULE_APPLICATION_AND_OTHER_CONDITIONS : NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SU CARRIER ECONOMY PROMOTIONAL -PROMO- FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY WITHIN RUSSIA.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
JUDGEMENT.


Код тарифа: UPROWRF

ну и на словах я знаю что можно дату переносить со штрафом а вот какой он????

yumo
17.11.2011, 11:49
меня больше аерофлот печалил а у него вот так


Код тарифа: UPROWRF

ну и на словах я знаю что можно дату переносить со штрафом а вот какой он????

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